Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/25/2003 01:30 PM House TRA

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HB  93-REPEAL BOATING SAFETY SUNSET                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR HOLM announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 93, "An  Act relating to boating safety; repealing                                                               
secs.  3,  5, 7, 9, 11, 14, 16,  18, 20, 23, 26, 27,  and 30, ch.                                                               
28, SLA 2000; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0068                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRUCE  WEYHRAUCH, Alaska State  Legislature, spoke                                                               
as  the  sponsor of  HB  93,  a bill  that  repeals  a number  of                                                               
provisions  from the  boating safety  legislation [HB  108 passed                                                               
during  the  Twenty-First  Alaska State  Legislature]  which  was                                                               
sponsored  by then-Representative  Bill  Hudson.   Representative                                                               
Weyhrauch stated  that the  intent of  HB 93  is to  continue the                                                               
registration of  boats for boating  safety and public  safety and                                                               
to  ensure that  the  state continues  to  receive federal  funds                                                               
because of its boating safety measures.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0237                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL  HUDSON, former  Representative,  Alaska State  Legislature,                                                               
informed the  committee that  the Alaska  Boating Safety  Act was                                                               
the product  of his imagination  and hard  work.  He  related his                                                               
belief that  this Act saves  lives.   He noted that  recently the                                                               
U.S.  Coast Guard  was transferred  from the  U.S. Department  of                                                               
Treasury to  the U.S. Department  of Homeland Security,  which he                                                               
interpreted as meaning that the  boating safety program should be                                                               
conducted by  the State of Alaska.   For that reason,  Mr. Hudson                                                               
urged the committee to forward HB 93.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0360                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN FRENCH noted  that he has lived in Alaska  for 23 years, has                                                               
traveled extensively,  and is  both a  power boater  and kayaker.                                                               
Mr. French announced  his strong support of HB 93.   He mentioned                                                               
that in his travels he has  seen boaters in dire straits and that                                                               
since  this  Act  has  been   in  place  there's  been  a  marked                                                               
improvement  in  safety practices.    He  pointed out  that  this                                                               
legislation  provides money  for boater  safety education,  which                                                               
benefits many people.  Although  some kayakers are concerned that                                                               
this  Act  places  constraints  on  operations,  registration  of                                                               
kayaks provides a much greater margin  of safety and also for the                                                               
ability  to  recover  stolen  kayaks.     Therefore,  Mr.  French                                                               
reiterated his strong support of HB 93.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0503                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG FORREST informed the committee  that he has lived in Alaska                                                               
for almost 56 years and has  been involved in boating that entire                                                               
time.   Mr. Forrest expressed  his support  of the passage  of HB
93.   Since implementation of the  Act, Mr. Forrest said  that he                                                               
has observed a  marked decrease in problems,  especially in rural                                                               
areas.    The   manner  in  which  boating   education  has  been                                                               
implemented through  the Office of Boating  Safety, Department of                                                               
Natural Resources  (DNR), has  been outstanding,  and he  said he                                                               
wanted it to continue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM inquired as to how  the Office of Boating Safety is                                                               
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. FORREST  related his  understanding that  the funds  are from                                                               
Wallop-Breaux  funds from  the federal  government and  the grant                                                               
from  the  state's  fuel  taxes  and other  taxes.    In  further                                                               
response to Co-Chair  Holm, Mr. Forrest confirmed  that he didn't                                                               
know of any  funds that had been derived  from registering boats.                                                               
However, if  there are  any funds  from boater  registration that                                                               
are being utilized  for boater education, then  "all the better,"                                                               
he said.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0606                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE  requested further explanation  with regard                                                               
to where the Wallop-Breaux funds originate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRAIG related  his  understanding  that [the  Wallop-Breaux]                                                               
funds are derived  from the taxes the state  pays when purchasing                                                               
fuel and  that the funds are  placed in a federal  government pot                                                               
of  money and  are  returned to  the state  when  there is  safe-                                                               
boating legislation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE  noted that  Mr. Hudson indicated  that Mr.                                                               
Craig was correct.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0776                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN LUCKING informed  the committee that he has  lived in Alaska                                                               
for 45  years and has canoed  and kayaked for at  least 30 years.                                                               
He  noted that  he has  been  a member  of the  Knik Canoers  and                                                               
Kayakers for  the past  17 years.   He  also noted  that he  is a                                                               
retired  state trooper  who was  involved with  driver safety  as                                                               
well as other safety issues.   Since retirement he has worked for                                                               
the Federal  Highway Safety Administration on  the enhancement of                                                               
seatbelt and child-restraint  use.  Mr. Lucking said  that he was                                                               
speaking on  his own behalf in  opposition to HB 93.   He related                                                               
his belief  that in  order to  correct a  problem one  must first                                                               
identify the  problem.  Although  many people in Alaska  are lost                                                               
in  drownings, those  in  small paddleboats  such  as canoes  and                                                               
kayaks are  few in number.   He suggested that one  should review                                                               
the circumstances  of each  incident.   Mr. Lucking  related U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard statistics  from 1995-1998,  indicating that  two to                                                               
nine  fatalities per  year  occurred  in canoes  or  kayaks.   He                                                               
reviewed  various  newspaper  articles  in  which  Alaskans  were                                                               
involved in  boating fatalities;  the common denominator  in half                                                               
[of the instances] was the absence  of a life jacket.  Therefore,                                                               
Mr.  Lucking said  he  felt  that a  requirement  for a  personal                                                               
floatation device  would be the  best and most  enforceable means                                                               
of reducing  fatalities.  However,  if the desire is  to generate                                                               
revenues, the boating  tax is one way of doing  so.  Furthermore,                                                               
he  said that  he  hadn't personally  seen  any boater  education                                                               
programs that have resulted from registration funds.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1007                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  remarked that he believes  Mr. Lucking is                                                               
on  track  with his  concerns.    He requested  information  with                                                               
regard to the effect of the  original legislation.  Are there any                                                               
statistics that point to the fact that the Act worked, he asked.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1100                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  JOHNSON,  Boating  Law  Administrator,  Office  of  Boating                                                               
Safety,  Division of  Parks &  Outdoor Recreation,  Department of                                                               
Natural Resources  (DNR), responded  to Co-Chair  Holm's question                                                               
regarding where the  funding comes from to  support this program.                                                               
Mr. Johnson  informed the  committee that  the amount  of federal                                                               
funds varies from  year to year based on a  formula.  For federal                                                               
fiscal year 2003, the state  hopes to receive $490,000 in federal                                                               
funds   for  boating   safety   education.     Furthermore,   the                                                               
legislature   may  appropriate   registration  receipts   to  the                                                               
department  to operate  boating safety  programs, although  those                                                               
funds have not been received to date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM said he read HB  93 to say that [the boating safety                                                               
education  program] is  contingent upon  obtaining the  [federal]                                                               
funds.  Therefore, without those funds the program would sunset.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON explained  that the  federal  requirement for  state                                                               
participation and  state grant funding  isn't dependent  upon the                                                               
state's   receiving  registration   receipts,   although  it   is                                                               
dependent upon the state's registering of boats.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1206                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL FOLKERTS,  Recreational Boating Safety  Specialist, Coast                                                               
Guard Boating  Safety, U.S. Coast  Guard, provided  the following                                                               
testimony:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The   Coast    Guard,   through   the    Secretary   of                                                                    
     Transportation,  is directed  to carry  out a  national                                                                    
     recreational boating  safety program under  Chapter 131                                                                    
     of  Title 46,  United States  Code.   The  goal of  the                                                                    
     program is to encourage the  states to assume the major                                                                    
     role in carrying out the boating safety mission.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Federal financial assistance to  the states is provided                                                                    
     through  the  Boating  Safety Account  of  the  Aquatic                                                                    
     Resources Trust  Fund, also known as  the Wallop-Breaux                                                                    
     Trust  Fund.   Part of  the eligibility  requirement to                                                                    
     receive  the funding  was achieved  when Alaska  passed                                                                    
     House Bill 108,  an Act Relating to  Boating Safety, in                                                                    
     2000.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  108 was  passed with  a sunset  clause that                                                                    
     would  allow  the  legislature   to  revisit  the  law,                                                                    
     primarily  to  ensure   that  consistent  and  adequate                                                                    
     funding  was in  place.   House  Bill  93 repeals  that                                                                    
     sunset,  allowing  the  law  to  become  permanent  and                                                                    
     helping build  a long-term  program that  will continue                                                                    
     to reduce recreational boating fatalities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The United  States Coast Guard  supports House  Bill 93                                                                    
     and will  maintain the relationship  with the  State of                                                                    
     Alaska  as outlined  in a  memorandum of  understanding                                                                    
     between the state and the Coast Guard.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HEINZE pointed  out  that  the sponsor  statement                                                               
refers to federal motor fuel  taxes and federal marine fuel funds                                                               
and asked if the two are the same.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOLKERTS answered that the  Wallop-Breaux funding is complex.                                                               
Although  he specified  that he  isn't an  expert on  the Wallop-                                                               
Breaux funding,  he said he  believes the federal motor  fuel tax                                                               
and federal marine fuel fund refer to the same pot of money.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1314                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOLKERTS, in  response to  Representative Heinze,  clarified                                                               
that the boating  safety program is new for the  State of Alaska.                                                               
In  further  response  to  Representative  Heinze,  Mr.  Folkerts                                                               
related  the  belief  that  the  program is  working  well.    He                                                               
explained   that  the   state   has   taken  responsibility   for                                                               
registering boats,  which was previously  done by the  U.S. Coast                                                               
Guard.    When   the  U.S.  Coast  Guard   performed  the  boater                                                               
registration, the money went to  the other states, not to Alaska.                                                               
Under  the  current  situation,  the   state  gets  to  keep  its                                                               
registration  money.   He  noted  that the  U.S.  Coast Guard  is                                                               
interested  in  the state's  having  the  boating safety  program                                                               
regardless of registration fees or lack thereof.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE inquired  as to the amount  of funding this                                                               
involves.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOLKERTS deferred to Mr. Johnson.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1367                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  answered that  nationally, as  of this  fiscal year,                                                               
the  amount of  money available  through the  Wallop-Breaux Trust                                                               
Fund is  $59 million.   Every state  and territory in  the United                                                               
States receives a  portion of that funding.  Alaska  was the last                                                               
state to qualify when the  legislation passed [during the Twenty-                                                               
First Alaska  State Legislature].   Alaska's share is based  on a                                                               
three-part formula  in which  the first  third is  shared equally                                                               
among all the states and territories.   The second third is based                                                               
on the  number of registered  boats in  the state, and  the third                                                               
piece is based on the amount  the state spends in state funds for                                                               
[the  state's]  boating  safety  programs.    Alaska  receives  a                                                               
relatively  low  amount  of federal  funding  because  the  state                                                               
spends no state money on boating  safety and has a relatively low                                                               
number of registered boats.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE returned  to  the earlier  comment that  the                                                               
program has been quite successful  and inquired as to the measure                                                               
used for determining the success.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOLKERTS answered that typically  the number of fatalities is                                                               
counted, although that's not an  accurate measure in terms of the                                                               
total success.   For example,  the number of total  fatalities in                                                               
1998  was a  high of  38,  while last  year the  total number  of                                                               
fatalities was 16.  He pointed  out that this gradual decrease in                                                               
the number of  fatalities is occurring at the same  time as there                                                               
has been a  gradual increase in the number of  boater days on the                                                               
water.  He attributed the  decrease in fatalities, in large part,                                                               
to  education  efforts.    In  response  to  Co-Chair  Holm,  Mr.                                                               
Folkerts  specified   that  these  statistics   are  recreational                                                               
boating safety statistics  that the U.S. Coast Guard  tracks on a                                                               
yearly  basis.    He  noted that  the  statistics  don't  include                                                               
[fatalities] from commercial fishing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM inquired as to where people usually die.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOLKERTS  estimated that about  40 percent of  the fatalities                                                               
last  year occurred  in open  boats such  as skiffs,  canoes, and                                                               
kayaks.   He informed the  committee that the fatality  rates for                                                               
vessels  28 feet  and over  and for  sailboats are  comparatively                                                               
low.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1517                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  inquired as to  how registering a  boat correlates                                                               
to the safety of the person using the boat.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUDSON  noted that he  has spent 20  years in the  U.S. Coast                                                               
Guard Search and  Rescue, and much of his time  was involved with                                                               
lifesaving and  boating safety.   The U.S. Coast  Guard registers                                                               
boats  mainly to  keep track  of  them.   If a  boat is  missing,                                                               
others  would be  able to  identify the  boat.   Registered boats                                                               
have a  common place  where the identification  is located.   Mr.                                                               
Hudson   highlighted  that   boat  registration   is  a   federal                                                               
requirement that the  state has taken over to enforce.   By doing                                                               
so, the state  is available to receive some  of the Wallop-Breaux                                                               
monies.  Boat registration is  done through the Division of Motor                                                               
Vehicles and  is user friendly.   He noted that  the registration                                                               
fee hasn't  increased and there  aren't safety  requirements that                                                               
weren't required by the federal  Boating Act.  This bill requires                                                               
the use of life jackets.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUDSON said  this program  saves lives  because some  of the                                                               
money that  is received  from the federal  government is  used to                                                               
purchase  life jackets  that are  placed  at the  docks for  use.                                                               
That is probably  the most important life-saving  element of this                                                               
Act.   Mr.  Hudson emphasized  that overall  the program  doesn't                                                               
cause   [boaters]  any   more  [difficulty   than  when   it  was                                                               
administered  via the  U.S. Coast  Guard] and  it's performed  by                                                               
Alaskans  in  a user-friendly  manner.    Furthermore, since  the                                                               
state is administering the program,  it has expanded such that it                                                               
includes the coastal areas and  many of the inland rivers, lakes,                                                               
and  streams  that weren't  covered  when  the U.S.  Coast  Guard                                                               
administered  the program.   The  program is  self-supporting and                                                               
isn't overly offensive  with regard to regulations.   The program                                                               
was  established  as  a  life-saving,  preventative  measure,  as                                                               
opposed to an enforcement measure.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1759                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM inquired  as to why this is being  addressed now if                                                               
the sunset isn't until 2005.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUDSON  said that he  believes it's in  order to be  ahead of                                                               
the  curve so  that the  state can  continue to  qualify for  the                                                               
federal money.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  related that  [from e-mails  he has  received] the                                                               
program  [is   viewed]  as  somewhat  onerous.     Co-Chair  Holm                                                               
highlighted  that there  is  no fiscal  note  and questioned  how                                                               
deeply this  has been thought  through with regard to  its impact                                                               
on  the citizens  of  the  state.   Co-Chair  Holm  said that  he                                                               
believes the  people living on  the coast have a  different issue                                                               
than those  living in  Interior Alaska  or the  North Slope.   He                                                               
said that  he has  never seen  life jackets on  the docks  in the                                                               
Fairbanks area.  Therefore, he  inquired as to the application of                                                               
this law on an areawide basis versus merely the coastal areas.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUDSON said he couldn't  comment because his information is a                                                               
year old.   Mr. Hudson related that it was  felt that application                                                               
of this  program on a  statewide basis  would save lives  and the                                                               
record seems to illustrate that.   Mr. Hudson reiterated that the                                                               
requirements are  the same  as those required  by the  U.S. Coast                                                               
Guard [under  the federal  Boating Safety Act].   He  pointed out                                                               
that just because the U.S.  Coast Guard wasn't there doesn't mean                                                               
that the requirements weren't there.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM remarked that he  is an individual who would rather                                                               
err  on  the  side  of  personal  freedom  than  on  governmental                                                               
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE inquired  as to where one  would register a                                                               
boat and the ease with which one could do so.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOLKERTS explained  that boats  are  registered through  the                                                               
Division of  Motor Vehicles (DMV)  and can  be done online  or at                                                               
one of the local offices.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1905                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  said his thinking  was much in  line with                                                               
that of Co-Chair  Holm.  He informed the committee  that he voted                                                               
against  this legislation  three years  ago for  the very  reason                                                               
expressed  by Co-Chair  Holm.   He related  his belief  that more                                                               
exploration  should occur  with regard  to private  associations'                                                               
providing  training  and  safety-related programs.    Before  the                                                               
enactment  of  this  Act,  the Matanuska  Susitna  Valley  had  a                                                               
boating safety  program that  provided life  jackets much  in the                                                               
same way  this program  does.  Furthermore,  he said  he believes                                                               
that parents should play an  important role in providing guidance                                                               
and instruction to their children.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOOKESH  informed the committee that  he voted for                                                               
this legislation [three years ago].   Representative Kookesh said                                                               
that it  seems that  the legislation  is being  debated, although                                                               
the only matter before the committee is the sunset provision.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM specified  that the debate is in  regard to whether                                                               
to allow  the legislation  to sunset.   Therefore,  Co-Chair Holm                                                               
said he didn't  believe it was inappropriate to  question how the                                                               
funding  occurs  and where  the  statistics  are that  illustrate                                                               
whether the program is useful or not.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2011                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER informed the  committee that she voted for                                                               
this legislation [three years ago].   She related her belief that                                                               
it provided additional money that  is necessary for boater safety                                                               
and education.  She inquired as to  why there was a sunset in the                                                               
first place.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOLKERTS recalled that there was  concern that it would be an                                                               
unfunded mandate.   There was concern with regard  to whether the                                                               
Wallop-Breaux  funding  would  be   reauthorized  on  an  annual,                                                               
consistent basis, which did occur.   This program has been funded                                                               
every year.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2039                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  HOSACK,  Deputy  Director, Division  of  Motor  Vehicles                                                               
(DMV), Department of Administration,  informed the committee that                                                               
boat  registration is  available at  all DMV  offices.   Once the                                                               
boat  is registered,  renewal can  be done  via the  Internet, by                                                               
mail, or in person.  Mr.  Hosack also informed the committee that                                                               
by  the  end  of  calendar  year 2002  there  were  56,911  boats                                                               
registered in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2078                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM inquired  as to how much money has  been brought in                                                               
from these registrations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK replied  that for fiscal year  2002, boat registration                                                               
revenue  for  both  powered  and   unpowered  boats  amounted  to                                                               
$456,600.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM  asked if  any  of  the registration  revenue  was                                                               
applied to any safety programs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK  answered that  he didn't know,  but pointed  out that                                                               
all of the money generated by  DMV is placed in the general fund.                                                               
However, the boat registration  revenue is identified separately.                                                               
"The first  part of  it falls  in with all  of our  other program                                                               
receipts to go  to pay for DMV's registration  program," he said,                                                               
which totals about  $370,000 and was included in  the fiscal note                                                               
for the  original legislation.   In further response  to Co-Chair                                                               
Holm, Mr. Hosack explained that  the operating costs for the year                                                               
are taken from  the funds generated from  the boat registrations.                                                               
The division's  operating costs  are $370,000,  although $456,600                                                               
is collected.   He noted that  DMV informs the Division  of Parks                                                               
[and Outdoor  Recreation] how much  money has been  collected and                                                               
that money  can be used for  boat funding.  However,  it's not an                                                               
automatic  appropriation  and thus  must  go  through the  budget                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM inquired as to the cost of enforcement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK  explained that  the enforcement  is done  through the                                                               
law  enforcement  officers  in  the  state,  mainly  through  the                                                               
Department  of  Public  Safety  or the  Division  of  Parks  [and                                                               
Outdoor  Recreation].     He  said   that  he  didn't   have  any                                                               
information on the enforcement aspect.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  inquired, then, as  to why  there would be  a zero                                                               
fiscal note for HB 93.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK answered  that the division is  already funded through                                                               
the original legislation for doing  the registration.  Therefore,                                                               
if the program is continued as it is, there would be no change.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HEINZE posed  a  situation in  which the  federal                                                               
funding was  lost.  In  such a situation, would  the registration                                                               
return to the U.S. Coast Guard, she asked.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK related his understanding  that without the passage of                                                               
HB 93, DMV's authority to register  boats will be returned to the                                                               
U.S. Coast Guard.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2220                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CAROL KASGA informed  the committee that she and  her husband own                                                               
a wilderness  guiding business  in the Brooks  Range.   Ms. Kasga                                                               
related  her   strong  opposition  to   HB  93.     Although  she                                                               
appreciated the  intent of this  legislation, she  didn't believe                                                               
it to be the best approach  to achieve safety, saying that a one-                                                               
size-fits-all  approach for  the state  is the  wrong way  to go.                                                               
Ms. Kasga informed the committee that  she owns 12 boats that are                                                               
used for rafting trips.   Safety is addressed via the experienced                                                               
guides in each raft and the  requirement for clients to wear life                                                               
jackets.    Ms.  Kasga  characterized HB  93  as  an  unnecessary                                                               
imposition of regulations.   She surmised that HB 93  is a way in                                                               
which a bureaucratic  system is established to  obtain funds that                                                               
may come [from  the federal government] and said  she didn't know                                                               
where the funds would go.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2352                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK,  in response to  Representative Fate,  confirmed that                                                               
without the  passage of HB  93, DMV wouldn't register  boats, and                                                               
the assumption is  that the U.S. Coast Guard would  take it over,                                                               
although the legislation doesn't specify that as such.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE  turned to  the situation  in which  the U.S.                                                               
Coast Guard takes over registration  again.  In such a situation,                                                               
would  the  same  regulations  that  apply  in  this  legislation                                                               
continue to be applicable under the U.S. Coast Guard, he asked.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOSACK  answered that  the  U.S.  Coast  Guard has  its  own                                                               
regulations  that  were  in  place  before  DMV  took  over  boat                                                               
registration.  He pointed out  that state regulations mirror [the                                                               
regulations] that  were in  existence when  the U.S.  Coast Guard                                                               
previously administered boat registrations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-4, SIDE B                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOSACK  explained  that  without   passage  of  HB  93,  the                                                               
statutory authority [of the state]  to make regulations would not                                                               
exist and  thus he assumed  that the [state's]  regulations would                                                               
be repealed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE  surmised, then, that the  regulations levied                                                               
by  the  U.S.  Coast  Guard, the  federal  government,  would  be                                                               
imposed on state citizens relative to their boating activities.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOSACK agreed.   He  informed  the committee  that the  U.S.                                                               
Coast  Guard's  regulations have  to  do  with which  boats  need                                                               
numbers, their size,  and the requirement to  have a certificate.                                                               
The  [current] state  regulations mirror  the U.S.  Coast Guard's                                                               
regulations exactly.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE related  his  understanding  that no  matter                                                               
what  occurs,  [boat  owners]  will   fall  under  some  sort  of                                                               
regulatory regime.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2318                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM asked  if the U.S. Coast  Guard registers unpowered                                                               
boats.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK replied no, indicating  that was unique in the state's                                                               
program  -   that  it  registers  powered   and  unpowered  boats                                                               
measuring over 10 feet in length.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  inquired as to  why the state  registers unpowered                                                               
boats.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOSACK  explained  that the  original  legislation  proposed                                                               
[registration]  for powered  boats.   However, the  focus of  the                                                               
legislation was boater  safety and the need  to reduce drownings.                                                               
Part of the  testimony heard during the  original legislation was                                                               
that those with  unpowered boats should have a  safety program as                                                               
well as  those powered  boats.  Therefore,  an amendment  to that                                                               
effect was added during the process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WEYHRAUCH,  speaking as  the  sponsor  of HB  93,                                                               
suggested that it  would be informative for the  U.S. Coast Guard                                                               
representative to speak.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2260                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL NEUSSL, Chief, Search and  Rescue - State of Alaska, U.S.                                                               
Coast Guard, related  his belief that registration of  boats is a                                                               
safety  feature  because  registration provides  the  search  and                                                               
rescue  forces the  ability to  quickly determine  the nature  of                                                               
distress.  With the registration,  the owner/operator of the boat                                                               
can  be  tracked down  and  the  situation assessed.    Regarding                                                               
unknown  cases,  resources  are  launched  to  determine  whether                                                               
people are  in distress, and  those resources are  very expensive                                                               
to  operate.   For instance,  a search  aircraft costs  $8,000 an                                                               
hour.  Therefore, he reiterated  that the registration of vessels                                                               
does have a direct impact on safety.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEUSSL turned  to the  issue  of "loaner"  life jackets  and                                                               
informed  the committee  that there  are approximately  400 sites                                                               
throughout  the  state  that have  developed  since  the  program                                                               
started.  He explained that  these sites require a local sponsor.                                                               
Mr. Neussl said these sites save  lives.  For example, in Sitka a                                                               
boat overturned  and the loaner  life jackets saved  three lives.                                                               
He  emphasized  the need,  from  a  safety perspective,  for  the                                                               
loaner life  jacket program to  stay in place.   Furthermore, the                                                               
boating  safety legislation  keeps  Alaska "on  parity" with  the                                                               
other  states with  regard  to the  distribution  of the  federal                                                               
funding.   Mr. Neussl recalled  testimony that 56,000  boats were                                                               
registered through DMV and said  he didn't believe that under the                                                               
U.S. Coast Guard there were  that many boats registered in Alaska                                                               
because the U.S. Coast Guard's office was a one-person office.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2125                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  expressed  interest in  the  percentage  of                                                               
inland  recreational  boat registrations  versus  blue-water-type                                                               
recreational boat registrations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK  said that the  registration doesn't  indicate whether                                                               
the boat is used in salt water or fresh water.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  recalled Mr. Neussl's testimony  that registration                                                               
allows  access  to  a  database  to  make  appropriate  decisions                                                               
regarding possible  search and  rescue situations.   He  asked if                                                               
the  [search  and rescue]  service  is  performed throughout  the                                                               
state or merely on the coast.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEUSSL answered  that  the [search  and  rescue] service  is                                                               
performed  throughout  the  state   when  the  U.S.  Coast  Guard                                                               
receives notification and  he assumed the same would  be the case                                                               
in the Rescue Coordination Center  in Anchorage that the U.S. Air                                                               
Force runs for  the inland portion of the state.   If information                                                               
is received  regarding an  unattended boat  that appears  to have                                                               
been recently used, the registration  information is available to                                                               
the  search and  rescue controllers  in order  to track  down who                                                               
might have  been in the boat  and to determine whether  there was                                                               
an accident.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2027                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JACK MOSBY informed the committee that  he has been a resident of                                                               
Alaska since the  late 1970s and was a guide  for almost 10 years                                                               
during the  1980s.   He noted  that he  is a  member of  the Knik                                                               
Canoers in Anchorage  as well as the Fairbanks chapter.   For the                                                               
past 20 years, Mr. Mosby taught  classes with the Knik Canoers in                                                               
which  safety  was always  stressed.    Mr.  Mosby said  that  he                                                               
supported portions  of HB 93,  specifically the  boater education                                                               
portion and the mandatory wearing  of life jackets.  However, Mr.                                                               
Mosby said  that he  didn't support  the registration  of canoes,                                                               
kayaks, and  rafts because he  hasn't found registration to  be a                                                               
benefit to  him when  he has  lost equipment.   He noted  that he                                                               
spent time  on over 1,000  stream miles throughout the  state and                                                               
at no  time did he see  any government entity enforcing  this law                                                               
or providing  boater safety education.   Therefore, he questioned                                                               
why everything  is being registered.   Furthermore,  it's unclear                                                               
as to  how many  unpowered vessels are  being registered  and how                                                               
much of those funds will be  returned to the state to be targeted                                                               
for unpowered vessels.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1959                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MATT  NIEMETH  informed the  committee  that  he is  a  fisheries                                                               
research  biologist who  works  all  over the  state.   The  vast                                                               
majority of the  projects on which he works require  the use of a                                                               
motorized vessel.  He said that  he is always looking for ways in                                                               
which to increase safety and  he appreciates efforts to that end.                                                               
Mr. Niemeth related his background  as a professional river guide                                                               
and a  white-water kayaker  and thus  he said  he could  see many                                                               
shades of  gray.  Mr.  Niemeth said he  opposes HB 93  because he                                                               
thinks there  are elements in  the original legislation  [HB 108]                                                               
that need amending  before this Act becomes a permanent  law.  He                                                               
echoed earlier  comments that this [HB  108] isn't a good  way to                                                               
address   boater  education   for   the  white-water   community,                                                               
specifically  for the  unpowered white-water  paddling community.                                                               
The safety  issues and effective  training for  [unpowered white-                                                               
water  paddling]  are very  different  from  those for  motorized                                                               
boats.  Therefore,  he didn't believe the boats  should be lumped                                                               
into the same  category.  Recreational white-water  boaters are a                                                               
specialized group that develops  its training and safety measures                                                               
in  response to  a very  specialized, fairly  esoteric structure.                                                               
There is a steep learning curve for white-water boaters.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NIEMETH  pointed  out  that  the  training  for  white-water                                                               
boaters usually  comes through local organizations  and volunteer                                                               
groups and is  usually very effective.  Mr. Niemeth  said that he                                                               
didn't see  how government could  replace that  [local training].                                                               
This is a group for  which small government is better government,                                                               
which is  borne out in the  low rate of accidents  and fatalities                                                               
within [this white  water boating] community, he  suggested.  Mr.                                                               
Niemeth related  that there  are white-water  rivers in  the U.S.                                                               
that  have had  500,000 recreational  white-water user-dates  per                                                               
year and  have not had a  fatality since 1988.   Mr. Niemeth also                                                               
related  that  he  hasn't  seen anyone  on  a  white-water  river                                                               
without  a  life jacket  since  perhaps  1984.   Therefore,  this                                                               
legislation misses the mark.   Furthermore, the fee charged would                                                               
better be  spent within  the specific user  group to  support the                                                               
existing training and safety measures.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. NIEMETH  concluded by saying  that it's important  to discuss                                                               
this now  because HB 93  would make [HB 108]  permanent, although                                                               
there are  still flaws.  For  instance, there is no  knowledge as                                                               
to whether  registration has caused  a decrease in the  number of                                                               
white-water accidents  or white-water-related fatalities.   There                                                               
is no knowledge as to  the proportion of Wallop-Breaux funds this                                                               
registration brings in  because there is no knowledge  as to what                                                               
proportion of  the 56,000 registered  boats is made up  of white-                                                               
water kayaks.   Mr. Niemeth related that the perception  of HB 93                                                               
[HB 108]  is that it's  a money  grab similar to  taxing bicycles                                                               
for automobile safety [programs] and  it's an attempt to increase                                                               
the numbers  in order to  increase eligibility  for Wallop-Breaux                                                               
funds, both of which are bad  policy.  Removing the sunset clause                                                               
before there  is adequate assessment is  premature public policy,                                                               
he said.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1673                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARK  JOHNSON,  Chief,  Community   Health  &  Emergency  Medical                                                               
Services,  Division  of Public  Health,  Department  of Health  &                                                               
Social  Services   (DHSS),  informed   the  committee   that  the                                                               
[department] has  studied drowning over  the years.   He referred                                                               
to  a chart  entitled, "10  Leading  Causes of  Injury Deaths  in                                                               
Alaska  by Age  Group  -  1994-1998," which  is  included in  the                                                               
committee packet.   He  pointed out that  for children  aged 1-4,                                                               
the  third  leading cause  of  injury  death  is drowning.    For                                                               
children aged  5-9, the  first leading cause  of injury  death is                                                               
drowning  and  for  those  aged 10-14  drowning  was  the  second                                                               
leading  cause  of  injury  death.    Therefore,  drowning  is  a                                                               
significant cause of  death for children in Alaska.   Mr. Johnson                                                               
directed  attention  to the  summary  of  the "Kids  Don't  Float                                                               
Loaner  Program"  included in  the  committee  packet.   He  also                                                               
provided examples  of six "saves"  that can be attributed  to the                                                               
Kids Don't  Float Loaner Program.   Much  of the funding  for the                                                               
aforementioned  program comes  from  the  federal boating  safety                                                               
funds that are a result of this legislation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  noted that for about  10 years prior to  the passage                                                               
of the Boating  Safety Act in Alaska, there was  an average of 29                                                               
boating-related deaths.   Since passage  of the Act,  the average                                                               
has  dropped to  22 boating-related  deaths, and  this past  year                                                               
there were 16 boating-related deaths.   Therefore, there seems to                                                               
be a relationship between the passage  of the Act and a reduction                                                               
in boating-related  fatalities in  the state.   Mr.  Johnson said                                                               
[the department] would  like to see that continue  and this seems                                                               
to provide  the necessary funding.   He mentioned that  there are                                                               
other examples  of some boating  safety activities, but  the Kids                                                               
Don't Float Loaner  Program is the most popular.   The Kids Don't                                                               
Float Loaner  Program is  in many locations  in the  Interior and                                                               
virtually every region in the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM,  upon determining no  one else wished  to testify,                                                               
announced that HB 93 would be held over.                                                                                        

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